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Probabilities

Dec 8, 2006 — 3:12 am

I can’t sleep, my mind is racing. Combination of having slept far too long yesterday and being 3dpiui – my brain won’t stop thinking about babies. So instead of sleep I crunched some numbers.

One of my infertility books (What To Do When You Can’t Get Pregnant) goes over ovulation induction and super-ovulation. It amuses me that the subsection about clomid speaks only about 1 or 2 eggs; the section on injectibles then goes on to consider more than 2 eggs. This amuses me greatly, since I’m a clomid girl, and have 4 eggs.

So in any case, the book states that after 12 months of trying with no pregnancy you effectively have about a 4% chance of achieving pregnancy in any given month. (Which is dropped from roughly a 20% chance each cycle when you first start TTC – as most people have no problems and get pregnant right away. By the time you’ve gone 12 months it’s pretty likely there’s a problem, thus the significantly lower number.) So then the book goes on to say that clomid roughly doubles your chances (by giving you two eggs) and injectibles roughly triple your chances (three eggs, I’m assuming).

I’m using the probabilities listed under injectibles and superovulation, since I have 4 follicles. 4% x 4 = 16%. I’d even be willing to say we could have a higher chance than that, but since I have no logical reason for thinking that I’ll leave it at 16%.

The book also says that couples using clomid for infertility treatment have a 10% chance of multiples; that percentage rises to 20% with superovulation. So if I were to achieve pregnancy, I would have a 20% chance of it being a multiple and 80% chance of it being a singleton.

Given all those probabilities, this cycle I have an 84% chance of not being pregnant, a 12.8% chance of being pregnant with a singleton, and a 3.2% chance of being pregnant with multiples. Den wasn’t too impressed with those numbers. I still do think our chance of being pregnant this month is higher than 16% – but hey, maybe I just want to think that. ;)

Baby Name Arguments

Dec 8, 2006 — 3:28 am

Before Den fell asleep we started talking about what we’d name the babies if we had twins. Obviously if it’s a boy and a girl we’d use the two names we’ve already picked out, Devin and Kailet. But what if we had two of the same?

Den: “Well, I like that girl’s name you keep bringing up. What was it again?”
Me: “Katherine.”
Den: “Right. I like it. It sounds french.”
Me: “The only thing that worries me is that the two girls would have the same initial.”
Den: “No, you made me change Kailet to a K.”
Me: “Yes, exactly.”
Den: “So it would be K and a C, Kailet and Catherine. Unless… you don’t mean Katherine with a K do you?!”
Me: “Well, yeah. Not with a C, bleh! K!”
Den: “OMG, no!”
[argument about K or C ensues]
Me: *sigh* “I guess we’re going to have to come up with a different name.”
Den: “I remember why I hated this process so much.”

A few minutes later…
Me: “What about Cody for a boy? I like Cody.”
Dead silence.

:D

Day 3 Bloodtest

Dec 8, 2006 — 12:05 pm

I finally called to get my day 3 blood test results. As usual I hang up and think, That was easy, why did I keep putting it off? It feels good to get the numbers in my hand.

Estradiol: 37 (normal range 13 – 166)
FSH: 7.5 (normal range 3.5 – 12.5)
LH: 6.9 (normal range 2.4 – 12.6)
Hepatitis B: Negative

Crazy Internet Sites

Dec 9, 2006 — 11:39 am

LMAO This is the biggest load of crap I have ever read: Moon Influences Fertility:

… the moon can trigger ovulation and bring on fertililty at any time during the menstrual cycle (including during your period)
… That is, if you are having sex during your natal lunar phase, the chances of ovulation being triggered are increased.

WTF?? Yes, of course – your follicles and eggs have NOTHING to do with releasing, but rather can spontaneously ovulate anytime. Right.

I do tend to look for “signs” – I actually ovulated on a full moon this month (I was born on a full moon), however I was triggered – but the whole “the moon can cause you to ovulate” thing has me pretty stunned and baffled.

So Sure

Dec 9, 2006 — 6:33 pm

I don’t know what it is, but I feel so confident that this month I really am pregnant. I guess it’s the fact that we had an IUI, that we had four follicles and our chances were so good. I just feel so positive. My brain keeps thinking of baby things, looking up pregnancy tickers, and thinking that I just need to wait until next week when I can make it official.

Plus things are aligning:
* In september a girl on a forum did a “psychic reading” for me (and I am no believer, but it’s amusing right?) and said she sees good news for me TTC-wise in december.
* If I were to get pregnant this cycle I would be due August 28, which is only 6 days before my own birthday. I really want a September baby.
* And I ovulated on a full moon.
* Not to mention that we had FOUR follicles. One of them has to stick, right?!

One more week. Just gotta get through one more week. I am considering testing for several days this coming week to watch the trigger leave my system… and to make me feel useful and productive.

Family Party

Dec 10, 2006 — 10:23 pm

Today we went to a holiday party at my MIL’s. I avoided anything spiked with alchohol (which included the punch, the egg nog, and a desert – sigh), since at this point I just don’t feel comfortable drinking anything alchoholic in case I’m pregnant. SIL said, “Did I miss something?” when she saw me with my milk and I assured her that no, I’m not pregnant, but I’m just being cautious anyways.

I told MIL and SIL that we’re seeing a doctor and that I was on medication to increase our chances. Both are very supportive and polite about it all – no stupid-ass comments. Although Step-FIL overheard one part of our conversation (the part where I said the tests came back normal – MIL was looking concerned) and said, “Well, what are you waiting for?? Get to it!! Ha ha ha!!” I forced a smile and went back to my conversation. Like really, as if we haven’t been “getting to it” for the past year? Bah.

I also asked MIL about my SIL and BIL – both of whom have twins. I found out that SIL has fraternal twins. Den was listening in on that part of the conversation and he was shocked – he honest to god though they were identical twins. (The boys are 13 now!) I guess they look slightly different now that they’re older, MIL has no problems telling them apart, but OMG they look so, so similar. Den and I can’t tell them apart even now. (BIL’s twins are identical girls.) I asked if either set of twins were born early… she said both had scheduled C-sections. SIL’s was moved up a little earlier because of a small medical problem (the boys had simply run out of room to grow – SIL is a very small woman), but neither women had early labor. The boy-twins do have some developmental problems, however. Slight, but you can tell they’re a little behind their age. I was just curious… having two sets of twins in Den’s family, it’s an ideal place to look for answers to questions!

One of MIL’s friends overheard a little bit as well and asked, “Is someone pregnant?” I explained that no, but we’ve been trying for a long time and are seeing a doctor. (See, I’m very Out.) She nodded and said, “Ahhhhh… we went through all that.” I wanted to ask her more about that, but we were interrupted then, and later I didn’t know how to bring it up without being obnoxious if she didn’t really want to talk about it.

The last time I talked to my mom she said, “You know, you should really talk to [her sister].” – meaning the sister who went through infertility. I agreed with her. I fully intend to sit down and talk to my aunt about her experience, if she’s willing to, whenever we visit next. Mom said this type of problem is more common than people think, but that no one talks about it, and she’s so right. And it’s definitely comforting to find out that other people around you have been through the same thing. Even if you never talk about it, never share your experiences – just knowing is a bit of a lifter. I guess it’s human nature… we don’t want to be alone. It’s comforting to know that other people have been in your shoes and understand what it’s like.

7 days until testing. Waiting is horrible. Horrible, horrible. I just want to know. I hate the unknown – and I don’t mean just about TTC. Everything in life… I hate waiting, I hate being clueless. Denis found that out the hard way early on in our relationship when he started teasing me with a “surprize” and I totally flipped out at him. Really, I feel kind of embarassed about that now – but it does illustrate how badly I take staying in the dark about anything. I just want to know. I want to see those two pink lines.

Unexplained Infertility

Dec 10, 2006 — 10:48 pm

There is a new write-up about unexplained infertility over at Stirrup Queens. A good read. A few very interesting points:

Couples with unexplained infertility have substantially reduced cycle fecundity rates, 1-4% compared to 20-25% for normal couples.
At the end of three years, the pregnancy rate for women with unexplained infertility is about 30-60% without intervention.
Clomid alone for unexplained infertility increases cycle fecundity rates only a couple of percent over placebo, so from about 1-2% to up to a whopping 4-5%.
IUI has been found to have a small benefit over timed intercourse in unexplained infertility (5% vs. 2% cycle fecundity rate).
Most published studies indicate 25-50% pregnancy and live birth rates in those with unexplained infertility [with IVF].

Emotional Births

Dec 13, 2006 — 11:48 am

I’m watching a birth show on Discovery Health – very typical for me. I watch a lot of births on TV. I think it’s helping me come to terms with my fear of labor, to understand the process and accept it – embrace it for what it is.

Today one of the women giving birth was just screaming. I think she was having back labor. This was in a birth center, and she was doing it non-medicated. And when the baby came out she started crying, saying, “My baby, my baby, I love you so much.”

And I immediately started crying. I still am crying. What a beautiful little baby. What struck me most is that she was in horrible, horrible pain, but as soon as that baby came out nothing else mattered one little bit, she’d do it all again for him.

Like I said, I’ve watched a lot of births on TV the last many many months. And I have never once cried.

Progesterone

Dec 13, 2006 — 6:37 pm

I called the RE Nurse voicemail, asked them to please let me know what my progesterone was. The nurse called back while I was in a store at the cashier and left a message on my phone. She said my progesterone level was 70.8. I listened to the message twice. I had Den listen to the message. She definitely said 70, not 17. It was a big ol’ WTF?!?! moment, because I was expecting a number between, say, 10 and 25. 70 is huge. On the forums people think she meant 17. I don’t think so. I found this on an infertility website:

Additionally, you may get very high progesterone levels after IVF because so many follicles were created. (Progesterone is made by the corpus luteum, which is the site on the ovary from which the egg is released. The more eggs are produced, the more progesterone is produced.)

So it stands to reason that with four eggs, four corpus luteums, my levels would be much higher than “normally” expected.

Fears and Anxieties

Dec 15, 2006 — 11:43 pm

I am feeling really out of whack today. It’s like the feeling I get when I don’t take my medication, but I know I took it yesterday. I’m very anxious. That might have something to do with the dentist’s bill we just got, my present that just arrived (which I know was very expensive, a calculated expense but still it’s on my mind) and the stack of 100 christmas cards I am going to be mailing tomorrow. That’s going to cost a bit. I’m sure it’ll all be fine, we’re not in the poor house at all, but I guess it’s all getting to me. I just feel very anxious.

It’s also about that time of the month – with less than 2 days until my test date – that all my optimism vanishes and I start thinking that I was obviously on crack when I thought I was pregnant because there’s no way I am. Right? Right? Maybe it’s just my heart’s way of protecting itself. I’m scared to test. I’m going to, because I want to know – but it’s probably going to be another negative. Like every month. (I honestly just think that at this point my brain can’t wrap itself around the idea that it might actually be a positive some month.)

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