I need some answers
I really want to go back to the RE.
But it’s not why you think. I’m actually perfectly fine with waiting out these natural cycles, and with our insurance deficiency we couldn’t start IVF right now anyways – which is why I’ve been putting off making an appointment. It seems silly to go if you can’t or won’t do anything, right?
Yeah, well, I find myself getting exceedingly frustrated because I don’t know what’s wrong. I’m sure everyone who has dealt with an “unexplained infertility” diagnosis can understand that one. Not knowing is torture. But with us… when we did our second IVF cycle, with ICSI, we got some light shining on it. “Finally!” I said. “At least we know what’s wrong!”
Thing is, I’m extremely unclear as to what the issue is. I google “low ferilization” and “immature eggs” and many other terms and I still can’t seem to find any similar cases or explanations as to what the hell happened. When I’m talking about our IVF experience people say, “So it was your egg quality then?” And I don’t know what to say. Maybe? But every time I look up poor egg quality I get articles that involve high FSH levels and a high FSH:LH ratio. I didn’t have that. My FSH levels were a little on the higher side, but firmly within the “good” ranking. And my ratio was very close to 1:1. Neither of which indicate any kind of egg quality problem.
Low fertilization… well that just gets me a bunch of articles about how great ICSI is. And one article mentioning how if the ICSI fertilization rate is poor then it suggests an egg quality problem. But then it defines poor ICSI fertilization as the number of fertilized eggs out of the number that were injected. Well, we had one injected, one fertilized.
That would lead me to conclude that the conclusion that the first IVF was also mis-labeled. 24 eggs, 2 fertilized – they said poor fertilization. But only 4 eggs were mature, 2 of which were “dead”! Only 2 would have been ICSI’d. So doesn’t that lead to the same conclusion? NOT a fertilization problem?
Which brings me round to poor egg stimulation, poor egg maturity. Different than egg QUALITY by far. That suggests that it was the stimulation protocol used during IVF that caused the poor “fertilization rate”s and all that crap. But the flip side of that is this one little niggling problem: that doesn’t explain why we’re infertile!!! ALL that explains is why the IVF didn’t go well. It was a medication problem, a protocol problem NOT an inherent problem that happened during my un-medicated cycles. So what, does this mean I’m still unexplained? Just bad luck?
So yeah, I want to go sit down with one of the REs, just to say, “Okay, please explain to me what the fuck happened, why it happened, and what we can do to fix it.” I’m probably going to make an appointment soon. I’ll probably wait until after AF shows to make it, though. I do this every month. Maybe I should just make it now. Lady Luck likes irony.
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Pee sticks? Still pretty dark. I’m getting pissed at them. It showed a surge, then won’t go back down. I thought it was, yesterday… then today it’s still dark. I started fretting, did I even ovulate? I felt “ovulation” pains, but like others have said, it could – and probably was – my ovaries gearing up to ovulate, not actually doing it. And I’ve had aching since… that could mean either that I ovulated, or that it’s still dicking around in there. I started thinking damnit, maybe I should chart just to figure out what the hell my body is doing and to confirm that it’s actually ovulating.
Then I realized, check my CM. Duh. No fertile CM at all, cervix is high (it was very low). Is it a smoking gun? No. No guarantee. But it’s enough to make me stop fretting, and that’s good enough for me.

Not to get all personal, but have you had unprotected sex at any point in the last month? After I lost my first daughter at 38 weeks, I did the same thing as you with the OPK sticks. I was really obsessed with figuring out my cycle. When the sticks turned dark and stayed dark for days, I was convinced it was early menopause or something equally terrible. Turns out I was pregnant. Your cycle does crazy stuff after a stillbirth.
Yes… lots. LOL We’re actively trying.
I know what you mean about being unexplained. We have no trouble getting pregnant. 3 months trying naturally and then after losing the tube in that m/c 1st month trying on Clomid. We just can’t seem to keep a baby. And I have been tested for a lot of different disorders with no explanation. It is super frustrating and I hope that you get some answers and relief soon. Good luck!
Maybe you already know this, but Kari is right. The OPKs do show a positive when there is sufficient HCG in your system. Are they positive (as dark or darker than the control) or just dark? There is a good description of how this works at the following site: http://www.peeonastick.com/opkhpt.html
I hope that you don’t have to wait too long for another pregnancy. I also lost a baby boy (35 weeks). I have since had another baby, but it was a long rong to get there. I wish you all the best. There are far too many of us.
They’re not blaringly positive, just “almost positive” but it’s hard to tell. Way darker than they should be. I highly doubt I’m pregnant, though, because that would mean ALL my fertility signs of the past 2-3 weeks were wrong, and I’m a pretty good judge of that by now. I only just ovulated last weekend!
Maybe I just really really hope you’re pregnant, but I thought I had ovulation signs, too. And I was wrong. I was pregnant again. And I had absolutely no ovulation signs around the time I think it happened. I’d say if you do another OPK today or tomorrow and it’s still dark, it might be worth investing in an HTP!
Hmm…it does sound like (from what little I know) that you had a protocol problem. Which still means ???? about what the original problem was.
I know it’s got to be super frustrating. We’re starting down that road to testing and it really does drive you crazy. You know you’re ovulating, you know he has good sperm. But no baby. WTF?